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Suggestion Is there a sure way to win in trading? YES

Discussion in 'Sistem dan Strategi Trading' started by John Man, 17 Sep 2019.

  1. John Man

    John Man New Member

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    Hi Traders,

    Greetings to all who are in this world of trading and congratulations for staying with courage and perseverance.

    Today I want to give a very humble message but with knowledge of the cause that gives me the experience of many years in trading.

    The search for the ideal template, the infallible indicator and / or the profitable EA can take us a lifetime and not succeed, many times we fall into a loop that leads us to search, find, test some new system or EA, which works some time and finally ends with our account ...

    Many say that to become profitable in trading you have to completely ruin yourself 2 or 3 times, wow that is very hard for anyone, I personally consider that with 1 occasion it is enough, in case they are more they should only make us stronger in fighting for reach our goal and in any case the loss is in a cent account with a maximum capital of 100 dollars ...

    The reality is that while we achieve constant profitability we all wonder if there is a sure way to win in trading...
    The answer is yes, if there is a method to win safely and constantly in trading

    And how is that? What template? What indicator or group of indicators will give us the signal? Which EA is the one that will give us unlimited earnings ...?

    The answer is many, it can even be said that any indicator, template or functional EA can give us accurate and safe signals to make a profit and in the case of the EA itself will make our account grow exponentially ...

    Is it possible ?, and if so, how is it so difficult to achieve? What do we need to do? What is the big secret?

    If you have a system and / or functional template you just have to follow the rules 100% always

    In the specific case of the EAS the answer is the correct CONFIGURATION, this is the secret that will give us constant and safe profitability

    And what does that mean the correct configuration?

    It implies the time frame, the expected profit or TP, the limit of loss or SL, the size of the position or lot, finally the currency pair, that is, each pair requires some specific configuration according to its performance, its volatility and spread

    And how can we determine the ideal configuration for each pair?

    There are some important rules when setting the configuration in each pair however it can be classified by similar performance groups ...

    If you already have a functional EA I recommend trying and testing until you determine it ...

    And what characteristics of EA are the best ...?

    Think about what is explained here and I await your comments

    We continue with the discussion and more ideas in the next post, ... thanks and best regards
     
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  2. james jamie

    james jamie Member Credit Hunter

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    Is there a sure way to win in trading?

    NO
     
  3. james jamie

    james jamie Member Credit Hunter

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    Is there a sure way to lose in trading?

    YES, trade with real money "specially with big lots" and lose for sure :)
     
  4. John Man

    John Man New Member

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    Hi Traders,

    Ok, let's comment on the next part of the topic ...

    It is important to clarify that by saying that we can win infallibly and safely in trading does not mean that all the operations that are opened will be won, that is unlikely, however what it does mean and that in essence is the postulate of the subject is that if we perform the appropriate actions at the end of the day or week or month we will have constant earnings every day, every week or every month according to our trading style.

    Clarified the above now let's see what follows ...

    What minimum characteristics should our system have to be functional and that the signals it shows us are reliable and allow us to earn from 70% to 80% of open operations?

    These are:
    1.- You must have an indicator that shows us when there is overbought or oversold (It helps us to determine the moment of the trend, if it is starting, consolidating or ending)

    2.- You must have an oscillator that supports us to decide when we should add positions, this is pyramid or scale positions (Together with the overbought / oversold indicator it will indicate when to exit the market)

    3.- It must also have a trend indicator, preferably in the graph (It will indicate the positions that we must open which will be purchases or sales) can be a Moving Average which depends on the time frame

    4.- In the same way a short trend indicator (We will indicate together with the oscillator the exact moment of our entry), this can also be a Short Moving Average

    5.- Finally an indicator preferably in the graph that will tell us
    the time to leave partially, this is to reduce our risk in the current position or positions
    Most of the time the market oscillates making pauses that are sometimes very pronounced and go against our position, that is why this indicator is necessary as security against strong setbacks

    The foregoing complements a functional and profitable trading system and can be strengthened with some suitable moving averages or multi-time trend meters to be more certain that we are following the moment, the medium-term or the main trend, depending on our trading style

    Very important to keep in mind to follow the operating rules of the system, not to be dominated by euphoria or overconfidence, discipline always has its reward if you do not have yet it is convenient to develop it to conform to the rules at 100%

    Here are some examples of trading systems with simple rules to follow (They are only examples but there are many systems, everyone validates the system they use)

    Forexlines7

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    Newscienceofforextrading

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    Will they be profitable following the rules?

    In the following comment we will comment on the characteristics that an expert advisor must have to qualify as functional and profitable
    Best regards to all
     
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  5. james jamie

    james jamie Member Credit Hunter

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    reading you is like reading an old news paper :D
    a lot of words for nothing

    learn by my experience dude, trading is a scam for retailers and is manipulated for sure in the stock markets and for the companies and govs etc...

    nobody will tell you this because everybody is like a devil,, want to eat from you or revenge or both
     
  6. flashlj2008

    flashlj2008 New Member

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    Can you share your indicators ?
     
  7. grugged

    grugged Member Credit Hunter

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    I think the situation here is maddening. Why not run an account for us to see how consistent you could be in case we can establish something here.
     
  8. John Man

    John Man New Member

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    Hello,
    Of course,
    Here I attach those of the mentioned systems, there are actually many and these are some examples
     

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  9. blackking

    blackking Well-Known Member Credit Hunter

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    Seems your experience in terrible manner, might facing losing money everytime make new deposit
    indeed trading is not easy, but this is challenging
     
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  10. John Man

    John Man New Member

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    Hi Traders,

    Now I comment that the characteristics that if we decide to use an EA the minimum characteristics that it must have to be considered functional are the following:

    1.- You must work in all time frames, which allows us to change them and does not affect their performance

    2.- The EA can be Grid, Martingale, Tendency or Correlation must accept changes in the size of the operations and adjust to the new denomination of lots

    3.- Something very important is that it must withstand interruptions in communication, that is if in a moment the electric power is disconnected, when returning the normal current the EA should continue without affecting the operations, that is, continuing with the next operation considering the previous lot, do not start the cycle again, just continue it
    Any EA that has these characteristics allows us to adjust to market conditions and make a steady and secure profit.

    Of course, each trader must develop his style and according to the size of his account decide the appropriate risk, it is best to start with the minimum and as the system or EA consolidates until then increase the size of the positions until finding the point ideal

    I will share the result of one of my accounts ...

    The idea is not to show that I am profitable, what I want is that everyone is convinced that the secret of winning constantly must be found by oneself, gain confidence over time but mainly respect the rules of the system and if used an EA adjust it according to market conditions

    Example of adjustment in EA:

    If I have my EA grid working in 5M and the market starts a trend against me, what I should do is change its time frame to H1 so that it does not open so many operations, if it is necessary to move it to H4 to reduce the risk and to stabilize or close the cycle I return it to 5M ...

    Consider what is explained here, think about it and if you have comments these are welcome

    Best regards
     
  11. John Man

    John Man New Member

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    It is the result from September 23 to October 1, 2019 in a small account
     
  12. james jamie

    james jamie Member Credit Hunter

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    pls don't post again more of that chinese cookie sheet to me
    its embarrassing :D
     
  13. james jamie

    james jamie Member Credit Hunter

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    :D :D
     
  14. Mohamed Atiia

    Mohamed Atiia New Member

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    Newscienceofforextrading is good for me
    i downloaded it from 1 month and tried it
    but i add one indicator to be more effectiveness
     
  15. John Man

    John Man New Member

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    Ok,

    Here is another simple and very profitable method
    Best regards

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  16. sholly

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    you are on point thanks for the writeups
     
  17. Mohamed Atiia

    Mohamed Atiia New Member

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    thanks a lot, but i don't kind of this strategy,
    time of oscillation it is fatal
     
  18. Mohamed Atiia

    Mohamed Atiia New Member

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    i will test this Newscienceofforextrading with add 1 indicator like that
     

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  19. hemmy

    hemmy Active Member Credit Hunter

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    Are you asking or telling us???
     
  20. Mohamed Atiia

    Mohamed Atiia New Member

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    i am telling ;)
     

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